Music octaves
-
How do I get different octaves, is it just a case of. C = 48
. C = 36
Same note different frequency? -
@waldron never mind figured it
-
Just in case, Fuze has a note2Freq function that you could use for this :)
But I assume that's what you figured out :) -
If you're using frequency values, simply double the frequency. 440hz = A, 880hz = A an octave higher.
The numbers you're referencing are indeed
note2Freq()
values and are MIDI standard.https://usermanuals.finalemusic.com/Finale2012Mac/Content/Finale/MIDI_Note_to_Pitch_Table.htm
-
@Dave perfect so double or half the value,
starting to compose a track thinking il load all the notes up to 4 octaves 49 notes
and go from there. -
@Dave in regards to say the second channel how do you time it to come in at a different time
and can i drop in samples within/among the notes.
do i set a timer for the whole track and have time signatures kicking off channels and samples ?just read through the help again i see the timer this time lol
i suppose the wave type is the closest thing to a different scale ... -
The tutorial on "Making Music" provides a good framework for triggering notes at particular times. This could also be adjusted to trigger loaded samples - you'd need an extra property in the "notes" structure to delineate between notes to play with
note2Freq()
and samples to trigger withplayAudio()
.In terms of scales, wave type is not what you're after here. Wave type will change the timbre of the sound, a square wave has a different timbre or texture to a sine wave, for example. To achieve different scales you'll need to select the notes in a particular way.
I could type an absurdly long post and get no where near to an exhaustive list of the various musical scales, but for most uses, a major or minor scale will serve you fine in terms of evoking particular musical flavours. I did make a post a while back about some rudimentary theory regarding something called "Modes" - I'll try and find it and post again here. Essentially, if you have a major scale, let's take C major (CDEFGAB), and you play the same notes, but starting and ending on the next degree, you get the different Modes of the major scale. These all have distinct musical flavours. So, C major starting and ending on D (DEFGABC) gives you what's called "Dorian" (in this case, D Dorian) - it has a very folkish or funky vibe depending on the musical context.
It matters what you're playing over, however. The D Dorian scale played in the key of C will sound like a C major scale, because it contains all the same notes! But play it over a key of D minor (especially a Dmin 7 chord) and you get a lovely flavour. (Dmin7 is DFAC - works especially well because D Dorian contains the note C as the 7th degree, meaning it fits perfectly in the context of Dmin7, but gives a different feel to a standard D minor scale, DEFGA Bb C.
Sorry for the wall of text dude. I love this stuff ^_^
-
@waldron Here's the referenced post, contains more detail about the different Modes:
However, without any musical knowledge you're always going to be "in the dark" so to speak - the tutorial uses note names and lengths (i.e, F#, semiquaver) to compose. If you've got access to sheet music and know the basics, it's very easy to put this information into the program and make it play anything - but if you're not familiar at all then composing music will probably involve some trial and error. It is using what's called the Chromatic scale (all 12 notes), and played randomly this won't sound particularly musical. Here's a couple of scales and their "vibe". I'm going to stick to the key of C here.
C Major: C D E F G A B // Happy, typical sound. Always a safe bet
C Dorian: C D Eb F G A Bb // Can be used for a folky sort of sound, or for a "cool" minor vibe
C Phrygian: C Db Eb F G Ab Bb // Has a very Spanish flavour to it, almost Egyptian sounding - especially if you raise the Eb to E
C Lydian: C D E F# G A B // Evokes a mystical sort of curious vibe.
C Aeolian: C D Eb F G Ab Bb // Your standard minor scale -
bloody hell you know your stuff! i'm self taught, if it makes a sound iv played it apart from wind instruments can never get the hang of them
C Phrygian thats what i'm after or a Byzantine scale
looking to make the arabian nights tune for prince of persia its not far off the original p.o.p track plus its got a killer bassline lol -
@waldron Byzantine scale is what I use on the track "medieval_town_relaxed", for a small section. Absolutely love that scale mate - it's instant Age of Empires ;) To find that scale from any note, you need to do jumps of:
semitone, augmented second (three semitones), semitone, tone, semitone, augmented second (three semitones), semitone.
On C that would look like:
C C#, E, F, G, G#, B, C
-
@waldron Phrygian is really nice too but has a more traditionally Spanish vibe to me. Also used a lot in metal music, palm-muted phrygian riffs sound awesome.
-
@Dave think i might just use one of your tracks, feeling like i'm trying to cram to much and stretching myself thin
that being said iv now got a program with all the notes loaded so i will revisit.
looking forward to digging into your song library see what fits